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Has any one used "Septiclense! on Leg ulcers on a human?

I have been suffering from a leg ulcer for at least six montjs.which has failed to clear updespite use of convential medical treatment..I have been told that the use of "Septiclense" sray as used on leg wounds scratches etc. for animals,horses goats chickens and other animals has been used to overcome this problen ?
Please help 1

Never a good idea to use products that are not licenced for human use.

Who is treating your leg ulcer now? Is it venous or arterial? The treatment is dependent on the origin of the ulcer. What specialist advice have you been given and have you complied with it?

If you're going to use animal products, sack your doctor and see a vet.

Ulcers Horses Treatment

Symptoms of Ulcers

An ulcer is a small sore or break in the lining of the stomach or just beyond the stomach in the first part of the intestine, called the duodenum. Once the break occurs it is gradually eroded and deepened by the corrosive effect of acidic gastric juices to form an ulcer. An ulcerous condition may develop quickly or over a long period of time. An estimated 5-10 percent of people suffer from an ulcer at some point in their lives. Ulcers affect people of all ages and are equally common in men and women.

Neuropathic ulcer, well that's a fancy name for leg ulcer... it is an infected area on your leg or foot and results from damage which you could not feel. So really, this is the time when it would be great for you to realize if you have diabetic neuropathy, you should do everything you can to control your blood sugar levels.

The best remedy for healing ulcers, especially gastric (stomach) ulcers is a diet rich in natural green foods - eating plenty of green cruciferous vegetables and drinking vegetable juice daily or as often as possible. Green foods are very healing! Parsley, kale, spinach, broccoli, cilantro, Roamine and green lettuce, watercress, asparagus, etc. are some of the best green foods available. And remember, green foods are naturally antacid without any adverse or negative side effects such as Tums or Rolaids and other OTC (over the counter) drugs.

Symptoms of Ulcers:

o Diarrhea

o Low grade colic

o Poor appetite, including the horse refusing foods or supplements that were readily consumed before

o Slow eating, sometimes walking away without finishing meals all at once

o Belching noises

o Decreased performance

Mouth ulcers are open sores that appear on the inside of the lips, cheeks, or other parts of the mouth. They may result from trauma caused by excessively vigorous tooth brushing, chewing on foods with hard edges (nuts, pretzels, etc.), eating hot foods, wearing ill fitting dentures, or lip biting. They can also be triggered by allergies to certain foods and food preservatives.

Treatment of Mouth Ulcers

1. Banyan (Ficus religiosa)
2. Chebulic Myrobalan (Terminalia chebula)
3. Fenugreek (Trigonella foenum graecum)
4. Henna (Lawsonium alba)
5. Indian Gooseberry (Emblica officinalis)
6. Kattha (Acacia catechu)

Home Remedies for Mouth Ulcers

1. Grind the leaves of the Indian plum (jambula). Exude their paste in water and gargle with this water. It will give immediate relief from the pains of the mouth ulcers.

2. Gargling with the water of the adulsa (Justicia adhadota) also brings about an immediate relief from the mouth ulcer pains.

3. Mix the peel of a lemon with white catechu. Grind them into a very fine paste. Apply this directly on the ulcer. The ulcer will get treated almost immediately.

4. Take two to three leaves of the guava tree and some catechu. Chomp them together. This will cure even the most persistent of ulcers within a few days.

A gastric ulcer or a duodenal ulcer is an open sore in the lining of your stomach or of the duodenum, where acids are found. When you have an ulcer in your stomach, the proper medical term is gastric ulcer. If it is found in the duodenum, it is called a duodenal ulcer.

The most common ulcer symptoms are sourness, pain and burns at the abdominal level. Many people tend to disregard these first ulcer symptoms, considering that their internal discomfort may be due to stress and fatigue. Only when they observe that their abdominal discomfort and pain reappears periodically, people realize that something is wrong.

If a person suffers from a recurrence of ulceration, the time has come to decide between starting on a permanent course of drugs (which can be expensive) or undergoing surgery (which nowadays, unless one suffers from other diseases, is quick and safe). Duodenal ulcers are said to be more common in the hardworking, intense type of person, so if you are one of these, and have lately been experiencing pain in the upper part of the tummy, now is the time to have your doctor check it out.

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What ulcer treatment/preventative do you use?

Since only 10% of horses never develop an ulcer, I figure I should get a supplement for them. My trainer thinks my horse might have them anyways. I see no use in going to the vet about it as I'm not interested in the gastric acid blockers that they'll prescribe him, since those only treat stomach ulcers and blocking gastric acid can possibly do more harm then good.

I saw an ad for Ulcer Stop. It sounds pretty legit. But are there any natural remedies that *actually* work? Or any good supplements?
Right now he's pastured 24/7, by the way. He does weave in the stall, which is the main reason we're worried about ulcers.

There are no natural remedies proven to prevent or heal gastric or intestinal ulcers in horses. The only proven product for healing stomache ulcers is GastroGard, which is a gastric acid blocker and you say you don't want to use one. UlcerGard is a lower dose version of GastroGard which can be used prior to stressful events as a preventive. All unregulated products are dangerous to use since they are not proven safe or effective, despite the claims the product manufacturers make.

Proven lifestyle changes for prevention of ulcers include a few things.
Feeding hay 24/7 free choice is one of them. A mix of alfalfa with plain grass hay of about 25% alfalfa to 75% grass hay is acceptable for most horses if there are no metabolic issues that won't allow the alfalfa to be fed. The calcium in alfalfa can assist in buffering stomach acids, and the constant chomping of the hay causes copious secretion of saliva. The saliva is alkaline and buffers stomach acids, and it eases passage of food through the digestive tract while protecting the mucosa. Also, the constant presence of hay in the gut gives the acids and digestive enzymes something to act on continuously. In the horse, enzymes and acids continue to be secreted with or without food in the gut. If there is no food, these can begin to erode or digest the stomach or intestinal mucosa. So between the presence of saliva and presence of food in the tract, a great deal of protection is afforded.

Ample turnout, socialization and exercise is also preventive. The mental and emotional effects are natural stress reducers, which reduces secretion of stress hormones that can contribute to development of stomach and intestinal ulcers while also weakening the immune system. Exercise also improves blood flow to all organs of the body, including the digestive organs, and contributes to keeping food moving through the tract.

So, I'd forget the natural remedies which may do more harm than good, and provide plenty of hay and turnout. If your horse needs hard feed, choose one that is complex fiber based like pelleted senior feed, as opposed to cereal grains and sweet feeds. Complex carbohydrates are digested in the hind gut by fermentation, and the fiber maintains healthy intestinal mucosa as it passes through the tract. Senior feeds provide the complex carbs needed for hind gut digestion, and are nutrient balanced complete feeds appropriate to feed to any adult horse of any age.

Cereal grains are loaded with soluble carbs that are digested in the foregut and they leave little digestible fiber in the gut to be digested by the acids and enzymes secreted along the tract, and since they are rapidly ingested, little saliva is secreted when they are fed, so they don't provide the protective effect that hay does.

When stressful events are anticipated, such as trips to shows, be sure the horse has plenty of good hay available at all times, and plenty of fresh clean water to drink.

Add....I did a search on Ulcer Stop. Their site has misspelled the ingredient, omeprazole as omenprazole, which is claimed to be present in their product, with no amount listed. Omeprazole is a gastric acid blocker and is the active ingredient in GastroGard. We know that in lesser dosage, it cannot heal ulcers. The lesser dose in UlcerGard is thought to be preventive, but does not have FDA backing for that use as GastroGard has earned for treatment.
It is doubtful that Ulcer Stop has enough omeprazole in it to have any benefit. It is combined with electrolytes, which have been repeatedly shown to contribute to development of gastric ulcers when fed orally, so why they are in the product is a mystery.
Finally, the product contains probiotics, which have not been researched in equines so we don't know what cultures are needed, much less what amounts. This is well known. All information in formulating equine probiotics has been extrapolated from human studies, and equines are herbivores with likely very different digestive bacteria than those of human carnivores. Toxic soil bacteria, heavy metals, and other contaminants have been found in equine probiotics, with variations in the amounts and types of bacteria. Again, we don't know what cultures are needed, or what amounts it would take to colonize the equine gut.

Ulcer Stop is an unregulated product with anecdotal claims of it's effectiveness, and no science to back it up. If you are worried about potential harm from a scientifically researched and FDA approved product like GastroGard, I would stay far away from this unregulated and unproven one.

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